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Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organization 334	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:35:00 - [1] - Quote Sorry DESTROYER416 but life in New Eden is not fair. It never has been and it never will be. If you want to roll with the big boys you are going to have to actually work at it since there is no way you are ever going to catch them sp wise. I would suggest finding a corp and learning to work extremely well with a team. This is the same strategy that CCP has used in EVE for years and I encourage them to apply it to DUST514 as well (which they have as you note) since it encourages team play and organization. Sure you can't take down the all proto player on your own. He's worked hard to get all that gear and the skills to use it. No you shouldn't be able to use all that gear in a matter of days. It took other players months of work to get to the point where they could use it well. What you can do though is get together with your buddies and say, "hey, there is a guy in proto gear over there. lets all shoot him together and cost him a ton of isk." Team work, even new player team work, can easily crush any single player. As for groups of high sp folks, well you might be in trouble there. Your best bet is probably to join a large corp so you can run with some highly skilled folks yourself. Stop complaining. Make a plan. Work together. Have fun.
Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organization 334	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:06:00 - [2] - Quote Just so you know I don't have 10 mil. sp, or even really anything near that. Yes I have been playing for quite a while though, since E3, and I have at times been either ahead or quite a bit behind sp wise. This is not really an issue and all of these facts about my characters and me as a player are beside the point. There are always going to people better than you. This is part of CCP's mantra with EVE and DUST. Yes, this will be a turn off for some new players. That is fine. This game is not made for everyone. If CCP wanted this game to be an everyman's game they would have produced a clone of COD. They didn't. CCP is producing an extremely complex layered game which takes years to become fully skilled in, and allows for competion at many different levels. What you are going to see is a shift from great players with lots of experience constantly murdering new players in pub matches to those same players concentrating their efforts on planetary conquest, where the rewards are greater as are the risks. There will be some players in better gear who play pub matches but this number will dwindle as the rewards for killing new players in militia gear shrink. Now if those same new players want to compete with more experienced players they have some options as I stated before. They can work hard and specialize, choosing to do one thing really well so that they can compete with older players in a few weeks to a month, and/or they can join a major corp (not a small one, they don't have the resources needed) where they can squad up with high sp players to get their support. As I stated in my previous post new players in packs can be effective too. I couldn't tell you the number of times I had my 700+hp assault suit killed by a militia assault rifle just because there were 4 or 5 of them shooting at me. A group of low sp players can dominate high sp players. I will give you the fact that the starting sp is low. That is intentional though. Like I said this game is one that is intended to take years to skill into. New players should have to grind through those low levels just like the rest of us did. As far as your accusation that I don't want new comers to stay in the game you will find that is as far from the truth as possible. I spend quite a bit of my time talking with new folks in my corp helping them select skills that will make them competitive and training them on the battle field. Its fine that you are defensive when your idea is shot down but please don't turn this into a personal attack. This is not about you or I but about how the game universe is set up and the underlying philosophy behind it. If you think DUST is cutthroat and cruel to new players give EVE a spin. By comparison DUST is generous.
Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organization 334	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:08:00 - [3] - Quote DESTROYER416 wrote: i have proto gear and im not complaining if you want complaining i will complain bout how a guy with milita gear can take out a heavy with full health by himself without sidestepping or how a heavy can no longer take on a single basic geared person when the heavy has complex damage mods and 1200+ health thats wat i would complain bout i bet your a ar guy rite Wow you really are defensive. Please just take some time and think about this all in the context of the larger game. Also remember, this is still a work in progress. I hear your heavy issues (pun intended) and am sympathetic. Infact I just posted as much on another thread.
Mobius Kaethis Planetary Response Organization 335	Posted - 2013.05.07 06:45:00 - [4] - Quote I think your straying away from the topic and hand here DESTROYER416. How does any of that have to do with the imbalances you identified in the current sp system? Are you changing the topic because you are conceding the point to me and agreeing that an unfair system is fine?

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